EP135 AI and Security: The Good, the Bad, and the Magical

Aug 21, 2023

Guest:

• Phil Venables (@philvenables), Vice President, Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) @ Google Cloud

Topics:

• Why is AI a game-changer for security? Can we even have game-changers in cyber security?

• Is it more detection or is it more reducing toil and making humans more productuve? What are you favorite AI for security use cases?

• What “AI + security” issue makes you  - a classic CISO question  here - lose sleep at night?

• Does AI help defenders or attackers more? Won’t attackers adopt faster because they don’t have as many rules (but yes, they have bosses and budgets too)? 

• Aren’t there cases where defenders benefit a lot more and gain a superpower with AI while attackers are faced with defeat?

• Is securing AI more similar or more different from securing other enterprise systems?

• Does shared fate apply to AI?

 Resources:

• “Securing AI: Similar or Different?” paper by Office of the CISO at Google Cloud

• “Secure AI Framework Approach" 

• Supercharge security with AI

• Board of Directors Insights Hub

• “Lessons from the future: Why shared fate shows us a better cloud roadmap” blog

• “Megatrends, Macro-changes, Microservices, Oh My! Changes in 2022 and Beyond in Cloud Security” (ep47)

• “Securing Multi-Cloud from a CISO Perspective, Part 3” (ep22)

• “Google Cybersecurity Action Team: What's the Story?” (ep37)

• “Google Cybersecurity Action Team: One Year Later!” (ep90)